成都地鐵2010-2027年的演變（地理地圖）
Evolution of the Chengdu Metro 2010-2027 (geographic map)
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網(wǎng)友：像中國(guó)的許多其他系統(tǒng)一樣，它使用中國(guó)中車(chē)的列車(chē)以及與中國(guó)40多個(gè)地鐵系統(tǒng)大部分相同的隧道和車(chē)站設(shè)計(jì)?，F(xiàn)在地鐵的規(guī)模之大也令人震驚。我2008年出生，那時(shí)那兒還沒(méi)有地鐵?，F(xiàn)在我16歲，那里已經(jīng)有300多個(gè)車(chē)站了。干得好，中國(guó)！
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@sdt1225
Like many other systems in china, it uses CRRC rolling stock and the same tunnel and station designs as the major of the 40+ metro systems in china. It’s also very baffling how large the metro is now. I was born in 2008 and there was no metro there. Now I’m 16 and there are 300+ stations. Good job china
像中國(guó)的許多其他系統(tǒng)一樣，它使用中國(guó)中車(chē)的列車(chē)以及與中國(guó)40多個(gè)地鐵系統(tǒng)大部分相同的隧道和車(chē)站設(shè)計(jì)?，F(xiàn)在地鐵的規(guī)模之大也令人震驚。我2008年出生，那時(shí)那兒還沒(méi)有地鐵?，F(xiàn)在我16歲，那里已經(jīng)有300多個(gè)車(chē)站了。干得好，中國(guó)！
Standardization is the key to mass production, as my technical school teachers used to say: the construction sector is a form of industry, with the key difference that the factory moves from one place to another instead of the product when it is delivered.
標(biāo)準(zhǔn)化是大規(guī)模生產(chǎn)的關(guān)鍵，正如我的技校老師常說(shuō)的：建筑行業(yè)是工業(yè)的一種，關(guān)鍵的區(qū)別在于交付時(shí)是工廠從一處移到另一處而不是產(chǎn)品移動(dòng)。
I visited Kunming in 2019 and there were 3 lines. I return in 2024, and there is 6. What China has done is remarkable
我2019年訪問(wèn)昆明時(shí)有3條線路，2024年回來(lái)時(shí)已有6條。中國(guó)做到的事情真是了不起。
You mean that stations in different Chinese cities look the same?!
你是說(shuō)中國(guó)不同城市的車(chē)站看起來(lái)都一樣？！
@blava3155 Metro Stations in different cities in China are very similar, just some designs are different, but same models
@blava3155 中國(guó)不同城市的地鐵站非常相似，只是有些設(shè)計(jì)不同，但模型相同。
@AprezaRenaldy Type A Train 22.0m long, 3.0~3.08m wide Type B Train 19.0m long, 2.8~2.88m wide Type C Train 19.0m long, 2.6m wide Type L Train 16.5m long, 2.6m wide
@AprezaRenaldy A型列車(chē)長(zhǎng)22.0米，寬3.0~3.08米；B型列車(chē)長(zhǎng)19.0米，寬2.8~2.88米；C型列車(chē)長(zhǎng)19.0米，寬2.6米；L型列車(chē)長(zhǎng)16.5米，寬2.6米。
@AustinKelly94 The key to this is a very different funding model to unlock budget and let local governing body has the freedom to do long term planning. It also brought incentives for local govt to build trains faster and further. It definitely has benefits in long run but I'm almost 99.99999% sure this is a very specific way of doing things that is never gonna be widely accepted elsewhere.
@AustinKelly94 關(guān)鍵在于一種截然不同的融資模式，他們會(huì)釋放預(yù)算，讓地方政府有自由進(jìn)行長(zhǎng)期規(guī)劃。這也激勵(lì)地方政府更快、更遠(yuǎn)地建鐵路。雖然從長(zhǎng)遠(yuǎn)來(lái)看肯定會(huì)有回報(bào)，但我99.99999%確定這種獨(dú)特的方式絕不會(huì)在其他地方被廣泛接受。
@defrense As the Chinese themselves have said repeatedly - do NOT copy our strategy or economic model wholesale in your country or it's doomed to fail. Doesn't mean there isn't a lot of lessons to be learned from them though. On the flip side, the spending spree in infrastructure across the major Chinese cities over the past 15 years was heavily fueled by the renevue to local governments via real estate bidding for development of state owned land. Now that the party's over it remains to be seen whether they can or should keep the pace moving forward.
@defrense 正如中國(guó)人反復(fù)說(shuō)的——不要全盤(pán)照抄我們的戰(zhàn)略或經(jīng)濟(jì)模式，否則在你的國(guó)家注定會(huì)失敗。不過(guò)，這并不意味著沒(méi)有很多經(jīng)驗(yàn)可學(xué)。另一方面，過(guò)去15年中國(guó)主要城市的基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施的狂熱建設(shè)在很大程度上靠地方政府通過(guò)國(guó)有土地開(kāi)發(fā)房地產(chǎn)競(jìng)標(biāo)獲得的收入推動(dòng)?，F(xiàn)在派對(duì)結(jié)束了，未來(lái)能否或應(yīng)否保持這種速度仍待觀察。
I was born in the 80s and when I left in 94 we didn’t even have traffic signals.
我出生于上世紀(jì)80年代，1994年離開(kāi)時(shí)我家那邊連交通信號(hào)燈都沒(méi)有。
@blava3155 train design is the same. Same trainsets, same signalling systems, same general specifications. Design of stations is usually different but still very similar to each other, I find most places will use the same font and line numbering system, same announcement voices too.
@blava3155 列車(chē)的設(shè)計(jì)相同。相同的列車(chē)組、信號(hào)系統(tǒng)、總體規(guī)格。車(chē)站的設(shè)計(jì)通常不同但仍然很相似，我發(fā)現(xiàn)大部分地方會(huì)使用相同的字體和線路編號(hào)系統(tǒng)，連廣播的聲音也一樣。
Building on average one whole metro line a year is crazy.
平均每年新建一條完整的地鐵線太瘋狂了。
Many of these lines have been in the process of being built for many years. What is impressive is that China plans the whole transportation infrastructure for a city and builds multiple lines at once. In most the world, that doesn't happen anymore (sadly). We build one or two lines, THEN decide what the following lines should be.
許多線路已經(jīng)建設(shè)多年。令人印象深刻的是中國(guó)會(huì)為城市規(guī)劃整個(gè)交通基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施，同時(shí)興建多條線路。世界上大部分地方不再這樣做了（遺憾）。我們會(huì)建一兩條線，然后才決定接下來(lái)建什么。
@lindsiria and only cost same as Building a tram line in Berlin
@lindsiria 而且成本只相當(dāng)于柏林建一條有軌電車(chē)線路。
I regret sometimes why any European city makes such a quick metro system as in China... ... but on the other side last month announced that Cracow will have his own system (not only premetro like it was at beginning)
我有時(shí)會(huì)為為什么歐洲城市不能像中國(guó)這樣快速興建地鐵系統(tǒng)感到遺憾……不過(guò)另一方面，克拉科夫上個(gè)月宣布了將有自己的地鐵系統(tǒng)（不再只是最初的輕軌）。
@torukmaktopoland First of all, there are only like 5 cities in Europe that can compare in size to those Chinese cities. (London, Paris, Moscow, Istanbul...) And all those cities already have wide networks and are building even more normall and express (like RER or Elizabeth line) metro lines. And IMO Kraków doesn't need (will not have money for) full sized metro system. Belgium style premetro would be right sized system with the benefit of the future proofing.
@torukmaktopoland 首先，歐洲只有大約5個(gè)城市能與中國(guó)那些城市的規(guī)模相比（倫敦、巴黎、莫斯科、伊斯坦布爾……），這些城市已有廣泛的地鐵網(wǎng)絡(luò)，還在興建更多常規(guī)和快速（像RER或伊麗莎白線）地鐵線。我認(rèn)為克拉科夫不需要（也沒(méi)錢(qián)建）全尺寸的地鐵系統(tǒng)。比利時(shí)風(fēng)格的輕軌是合適的系統(tǒng)，它兼具了未來(lái)擴(kuò)展的好處。
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@geography_czek5699 My cousine got married, with Cracovian, which strong opted to build metro
@geography_czek5699 我的表親娶了個(gè)克拉科夫人，他強(qiáng)烈支持興建地鐵。
It took 5 -8 years to build one line end to end in Chengdu too. The city has 3-5 lines being built concurrently so you can see almost every year that a new line is completed
在成都建一條完整的地鐵線也要5-8年，城市會(huì)同時(shí)興建3-5條線，所以幾乎每年都有新線完工。
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good planning is all you need. you can build few lines simultaneously, and opening them in a sequence that seems like one is being built every few months. thats what we did
好的規(guī)劃就是一切。你可以同時(shí)興建幾條線，按順序開(kāi)通，看起來(lái)就像是每幾個(gè)月就建好一條。我們就是這么做的。
10 years ago when I went to Chengdu, I was troubled by traffic jams, so I’m really happy that so many subways have been built. I want to go again.
十年前我去成都時(shí)被交通堵塞困擾，所以看到這么多地鐵建好我真的很高興。我想再去一次。
China's rapid build and radial city planning makes for some pretty interesting results. Also, I like that they went for multiple concentric rings like Tokyo.
中國(guó)快速建設(shè)和放射狀城市規(guī)劃帶來(lái)了一些非常有趣的結(jié)果，我也喜歡他們像東京一樣采用了多個(gè)同心環(huán)線。
Chengdu is a polycentric city, but Beijing is a completely centralized city with the Imperial Palace. The farther away from the Forbidden City, the cheaper the real estate, and there are no bustling towns.
成都是一個(gè)多中心的城市，而北京是一個(gè)以皇宮為中心的完全中心化的城市，離紫禁城越遠(yuǎn)，房地產(chǎn)就越便宜，也沒(méi)有熱鬧的城鎮(zhèn)。
Chengdu itself has a very circular plan appearance. Unlike most of Chinese cities which go for square form
成都本身的規(guī)劃外觀就非常圓，不像中國(guó)大多數(shù)城市采用的方形形式。
Considering Chengdu has a population of over 20 million residents,it is definate that an efficient and massive railroad transport system is so necessary.As I myself a citizen in Chengdu,I really appreciate the constructions done and being done which really benefit us. Also,thanks for this nice video!
考慮到成都的人口超過(guò)2000萬(wàn)，高效且大規(guī)模的地鐵交通系統(tǒng)絕對(duì)有必要。作為成都市民，我非常感激已建和在建的工程，它們真正惠及了我們。另外，感謝這個(gè)精彩的視頻！
I've been to Chengdu twice! It's an amazing city and was my first experience on a subway system outside of the U.S.
我去過(guò)成都兩次！它是個(gè)了不起的城市，也是我在美國(guó)以外第一次體驗(yàn)地鐵系統(tǒng)。
It's amazing how significantly faster they developed their metro system when compared to places like NYC
與紐約相比，他們發(fā)展地鐵系統(tǒng)的速度快得驚人。
No bureaucratic setbacks does wonders when it comes to infrastructure. China is all about planning, combine that with one-party system that easily imposes public interest over private interest, massive economy that attracts people into huge cities, an army of seasoned engineering veterans and limitless funds and you get the Chinese transportation miracle. Everything they did in the past 25 years is nothing short of spectacular, but Chengdu is the crown jewel of this endevour - to build such a massive system in less than 20 years is truly astonshing! Kudos for China!
沒(méi)有官僚阻礙對(duì)基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施建設(shè)有奇效。中國(guó)注重規(guī)劃，結(jié)合一黨制輕松將公共利益置于私人利益之上，龐大的經(jīng)濟(jì)吸引人口涌入大城市，再加上經(jīng)驗(yàn)豐富的工程師大軍和無(wú)限的資金，你就得到了中國(guó)的交通奇跡。過(guò)去25年他們做的每件事都堪稱壯觀，但成都是這項(xiàng)努力的瑰寶——不到20年就建成如此龐大的系統(tǒng)真是令人震驚！為中國(guó)點(diǎn)贊！
Another thing is incentives. The Chinese government owns all land, so they make massive amounts of money when a subway turns cheap farmland into a place to put luxury apartments.
另一個(gè)因素是激勵(lì)。中國(guó)政府擁有所有的土地，所以當(dāng)?shù)罔F把廉價(jià)的農(nóng)田變成興建豪華公寓的地方時(shí)，他們賺了大錢(qián)。
I'm from Chengdu and I'm really excited to see how rapidly the metro system is developing in my hometown. There's gonna be more than 2000 km of operation kilometers in total as planned in the future.
我來(lái)自成都，看到家鄉(xiāng)的地鐵系統(tǒng)的發(fā)展如此迅速我真的很興奮，成都未來(lái)規(guī)劃的總運(yùn)營(yíng)里程將超過(guò)2000公里。
it's crazy that US can spend billions on highway project but can't spend on metro system. The only city that has acceptable metro system in the US is NYC. Others need heavy investment if they want the system to be efficient.
美國(guó)政府砸?guī)资畠|修公路卻舍不得投資地鐵，簡(jiǎn)直是離譜！全美只有紐約的地鐵還算像樣，其他城市要想提升效率，得下血本改造才行。
As a local in Chengdu, I am really surprised by the rapid development of metro system in these 10 years. btw the latest line s3 Ziyang line is coming soon
作為成都本地人，我對(duì)這10年地鐵系統(tǒng)的快速發(fā)展感到驚訝。順便說(shuō)一下，最新的S3資陽(yáng)線即將開(kāi)通。
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Actually, other cities in china also develop their metro fast!
其實(shí)中國(guó)其他城市的地鐵也發(fā)展得很快！
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In China, if a local government wants to build a subway, it needs the approval of the central government first. This process is not easy, sometimes it takes years. Therefore, once approved, the local government will advance rapidly and the citizens will look forward to it.
在中國(guó)，地方政府想建地鐵需先獲得中央政府得批準(zhǔn)。這個(gè)過(guò)程并不容易，有時(shí)需要數(shù)年。因此，一旦獲批，地方政府會(huì)迅速推進(jìn)，市民也滿懷期待。
It's amazing to see how quickly and comprehensively the Chinese can build. It'll be interesting to see how the systems are maintained over the coming decades
看到中國(guó)人建得如此快速且全面真令人驚嘆，未來(lái)幾十年這些系統(tǒng)如何維護(hù)會(huì)很有趣。
I think it'll go pretty well. I rode the Guangzhou metro's Line 1, and even though they use 20-year old trains the ride is much smoother than anything I've seen in North America, where I live.
我想會(huì)挺順利的。我坐過(guò)廣州地鐵1號(hào)線，盡管用的是20年的老列車(chē)，但乘坐體驗(yàn)比我在北美見(jiàn)過(guò)的任何地鐵都順暢。
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I have been on the subway line 1 in Beijing, which was built fifty years ago. At present, it still runs smoothly and well. (Please forgive my Google translation)
我坐過(guò)北京地鐵1號(hào)線，那是五十年前建的，現(xiàn)在依然運(yùn)行順暢且良好（請(qǐng)?jiān)徫业墓雀璺g）。
@_human_1946 Most subway systems in North America is much older than Guangzhou. Relatively newer systems in NA like WMTA, Montreal STM, Vancouver sky train and Seattle sound transit are also not that bad.
@_human_1946 北美大多數(shù)地鐵系統(tǒng)比廣州老得多，北美較新的系統(tǒng)如華盛頓地鐵、蒙特利爾STM、溫哥華天空列車(chē)和西雅圖的音速交通也不算差。
What amazes me is that big Chinese cities that have metro systems are having to expand their network with the population growing ever more faster. China is well ahead of pretty much every country.
讓我驚嘆的是中國(guó)大城市的地鐵系統(tǒng)因人口的快速增長(zhǎng)而不得不擴(kuò)展網(wǎng)絡(luò)，中國(guó)幾乎領(lǐng)先所有的國(guó)家。
Friendly reminder that line 13 is missing, opening next year in 2025, it’s been under construction for yrs, and I’m excited
友情提醒，13號(hào)線還沒(méi)有建好，明年（2025）年開(kāi)通，它已建設(shè)多年，我很期待。
Awesome video! This is what happens when you play NIMBY Rails with unlimited money
超棒的視頻！這就是用無(wú)限資金玩《NIMBY Rails》的結(jié)果。
NIMBY is never a real issue here, as no privately owned land the city has much better freedom in infrastructure planning. The unlimited money comes from a different funding model. There is no such thing as local tax or council rates in China, local governing body sells leases of land for development to raise majority of its operation funds, there is big incentives to build train connecting business core and city fringe so low value land lease becomes much more expensive, due to easily foreseeable return it is also easy to borrow for these projects.
NIMBY在這兒從來(lái)不是問(wèn)題，因?yàn)闆](méi)有私有土地，城市在基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施規(guī)劃上有更大的自由。無(wú)限的資金來(lái)自不同的融資模式，中國(guó)沒(méi)有地方稅或市政費(fèi)，地方政府會(huì)通過(guò)出售土地開(kāi)發(fā)租約籌集大部分運(yùn)營(yíng)資金，建鐵路連接商業(yè)核心和城市邊緣有很大的激勵(lì)，它可以讓低價(jià)值的土地租約變得更貴，由于回報(bào)易于預(yù)測(cè)，借貸也更容易。
Really amazing video as always. I've been living in Chengdu for a little over a month now, and noticed construction of line 13 at the Sichuan Normal University area
一如既往的精彩視頻。我在成都生活了剛一個(gè)月多點(diǎn)，我注意到了四川師范大學(xué)區(qū)域的13號(hào)線的施工。
Hey, great video Metro Liner, totally love it the design is great. Thats why i would love it when you create a video for the history and future construction of Klang Valley Transit. Ive seen some of similar creator made one, wished you make one. If you're busy creating other videos, why not list it in your future video ideas! Thanks.
嘿，Metro Liner，超棒的視頻，我真的很喜歡，成都地鐵的設(shè)計(jì)很棒。所以我希望你能做一個(gè)關(guān)于巴生谷交通歷史和未來(lái)建設(shè)的視頻。我見(jiàn)過(guò)類(lèi)似的創(chuàng)作者做過(guò)，期待你也做一個(gè)。如果你忙于其他視頻，為什么不把它列入未來(lái)視頻計(jì)劃呢！謝謝。
This is so amazing to see! Meanwhile in my country in the Netherlands we take 25 years to build a new train route in the north. And it might not even be finished before 2050!
看到這個(gè)真的令人驚嘆！與此同時(shí)，在我的國(guó)家荷蘭，我們花了25年在北部興建一條新鐵路，可能到2050年都無(wú)法完工！
Here’s an idea: make a video on a metro that isn’t open but has planned lines or even is under construction e.g. Riyadh or Bogotá (my apologies if the Saudi capital opened its metro by the time you read this comment.)
我有個(gè)主意：做一個(gè)關(guān)于尚未開(kāi)通但有規(guī)劃線路或在建地鐵的視頻，比如利雅得或波哥大（如果讀到這評(píng)論時(shí)沙特的首都已經(jīng)開(kāi)通地鐵，我先道歉）。
Chengdu is nothing short of astonishing. Honestly, considering its population size I was quite surprised it didn’t have a single line until 2010. I would have expected there to be at least one. Some of these projects may be delayed, but at this rate the system’s going to double within the next ten years
成都簡(jiǎn)直令人嘆為觀止。說(shuō)實(shí)話，考慮到它的人口規(guī)模，我很驚訝直到2010年才有一條地鐵線。我本以為至少會(huì)有一條。雖然有些項(xiàng)目可能會(huì)延誤，但按照這個(gè)速度，未來(lái)十年系統(tǒng)的規(guī)模會(huì)翻倍。
I love watching all videos of yours, they are absolutely amazing, I have a question for you, is it possible to make a evolution of Istanbul Metro? they are improving quite a bit since 2018, and they have lot of metro construction work that is not going to conclude anytime soon...
我愛(ài)看你的所有視頻，它絕對(duì)精彩，我有個(gè)問(wèn)題，你能否做一個(gè)伊斯坦布爾地鐵演變的視頻？他們自2018年以來(lái)進(jìn)步路很多，還有很多短期內(nèi)完不了的地鐵建設(shè)工作……
In the United States, we spent three times as much money over the same period just debating whether to build the line, worrying about whether a groundhog nest along the route would be affected, and discussing how to ensure LGBTQ fairness during construction. In the end, the budget was gone — and nothing had even started.
在美國(guó)，同一時(shí)期我們花了三倍的錢(qián)只是討論是否要建地鐵，擔(dān)心沿線的土撥鼠窩受到影響，討論如何確保施工中的LGBTQ公平。最后，預(yù)算花光了——什么都沒(méi)有開(kāi)始。
You have no idea how the extension of line 17 in 5:22 satisfied my OCD. That unsymmetrical gap has bothered me the entire video. Any idea why it took them so long to connect that sector of the city.
你不知道5分22秒時(shí)17號(hào)線的延伸有多滿足我的強(qiáng)迫癥。那個(gè)不對(duì)稱的缺口讓我在觀看整個(gè)視頻的過(guò)程中都很煩躁。你知道為什么連接那片城區(qū)花了那么久嗎？
A major accident happened a few years ago in the construction of the Line 17. A few workers died on the construction site and the construction of the line paused for quite a while before the investigation finished. I live in the west of the city along the line 17 and I attend university near the site on the east of the city where the accident happened (Jianshe North Rd station).
幾年前17號(hào)線的施工中發(fā)生了重大的事故，幾名工人在工地死亡，線路建設(shè)暫停了很長(zhǎng)時(shí)間，直到調(diào)查結(jié)束。我生活在這條線路西邊的城市，事故發(fā)生地（建設(shè)北路站）在東邊，我在那附近上大學(xué)。
Can you do a video on the expansion of the Sapporo Municipal Subway, Hokkaido, Japan? It only has 3 lines and a looping streetcar now, but I hear there was a sprawling streetcar network before the subway opened.
你能做個(gè)關(guān)于日本北海道札幌市地鐵擴(kuò)展的視頻嗎？現(xiàn)在只有3條線和一個(gè)環(huán)形有軌電車(chē)，但聽(tīng)說(shuō)地鐵開(kāi)通前有個(gè)龐大的有軌電車(chē)網(wǎng)絡(luò)。
The construction speed of Chengdu subway is really crazy. In just a few years, the mileage is among the top in the country. In front of him are the established cities of Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Guangzhou. People who are not from the next city will feel shocked every time they go to Chengdu.
成都地鐵的建設(shè)速度真是瘋狂。短短幾年，其運(yùn)營(yíng)里程已名列全國(guó)前茅，排在它前面的只有老牌城市北京、上海、深圳和廣州。外地人每次來(lái)成都準(zhǔn)會(huì)驚掉下巴！
I now live in Austria in was born in Austria but does not have many lines but China started the latest who built train lines but only have like 300 million station already then Austria
我現(xiàn)居奧地利，雖出生于此，但這里的鐵路線路寥寥。反觀中國(guó)，雖較晚發(fā)展軌道交通，卻已建成約3億人次容量的車(chē)站網(wǎng)絡(luò)，奧地利與之相比實(shí)在是相形見(jiàn)絀。
What kind of TBMs are they using to open a kilometers-long line per year? This should be physically impossible with current technology
他們究竟用的什么隧道掘進(jìn)機(jī)，居然能一年打通數(shù)公里長(zhǎng)的隧道？按現(xiàn)有技術(shù)這根本不可能實(shí)現(xiàn)！
China has the world's largest shield machine, the world's most advanced construction level, and the world's lowest construction cost, so it is natural that Chengdu will continue to open at least one new subway every year in the next 10 years as it does now.
中國(guó)有全世界最大的盾構(gòu)機(jī)，全球最先進(jìn)的施工水平，和全球最低的施工成本，所以成都未來(lái)10年像現(xiàn)在這樣每年至少開(kāi)通一條新地鐵是理所當(dāng)然的。
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Usually they started the construction from several planned stations along the line in parallel.
通常他們會(huì)從沿線幾個(gè)規(guī)劃站點(diǎn)同時(shí)開(kāi)始施工。