美知乎討論:您對半程馬拉松賽場上出現(xiàn)機器人選手作何反應
What is your reaction to seeing the robots running a half marathon?
譯文簡介
全球首場人形機器人半程馬拉松賽——2025北京亦莊半程馬拉松暨人形機器人馬拉松在北京開跑。比賽中有人形機器人跑到散架,還有人形機器人跑到跌倒?,F(xiàn)場視頻反映出,當前人形機器人技術尚未真正成熟,但通過比賽,人們更加近距離地了接觸了人形機器人,更直觀地了解了智能機器人產(chǎn)業(yè)的發(fā)展現(xiàn)狀與技術水平。
正文翻譯
Thomas Anderson
During the research and development process, data is very important. Compared to being in a closed laboratory, going out and participating in various scenarios can gain better data. For a humanoid robot of conventional size, a 21-kilometer running requires approximately 250,000 precise joint movements, serving as an "extreme test" for joint accuracy, thermal management, power systems, control algorithms, communication interference, and other issues. Such activities not only have experimental value but also provide entertainment, and they should do it more often in the future.
在研發(fā)過程中,數(shù)據(jù)是非常重要的。相比停留在封閉的實驗室中,走出去參與各種實際場景能夠獲得更有價值的數(shù)據(jù)。對于一款常規(guī)尺寸的人形機器人來說,跑完21公里的距離需要約25萬次精確的關節(jié)動作,這對關節(jié)精度、熱管理、動力系統(tǒng)、控制算法、通信干擾等問題都是一場“極限測試”。這類活動不但具有實驗價值,還具備娛樂性,未來應該多多舉辦。
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During the research and development process, data is very important. Compared to being in a closed laboratory, going out and participating in various scenarios can gain better data. For a humanoid robot of conventional size, a 21-kilometer running requires approximately 250,000 precise joint movements, serving as an "extreme test" for joint accuracy, thermal management, power systems, control algorithms, communication interference, and other issues. Such activities not only have experimental value but also provide entertainment, and they should do it more often in the future.
在研發(fā)過程中,數(shù)據(jù)是非常重要的。相比停留在封閉的實驗室中,走出去參與各種實際場景能夠獲得更有價值的數(shù)據(jù)。對于一款常規(guī)尺寸的人形機器人來說,跑完21公里的距離需要約25萬次精確的關節(jié)動作,這對關節(jié)精度、熱管理、動力系統(tǒng)、控制算法、通信干擾等問題都是一場“極限測試”。這類活動不但具有實驗價值,還具備娛樂性,未來應該多多舉辦。
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Some people say that this is China "adding drama" to the industry, but that's wrong. If it were truly a "show", what we would see should be perfect in all aspects. However, what we see is unedited live broadcasts of the competition, with various issues arising with the participating robots.
有些人說這是中國在給智能機器人行業(yè)“增添戲劇色彩”,但這其實是一種誤讀。如果一切真的只是某種“表演秀”的話,我們應該看到機器人在各個方面都表現(xiàn)的非常完美。而事實卻是,我們看到的是未經(jīng)剪輯的現(xiàn)場直播,參賽機器人出現(xiàn)了各種問題。
Whether it's the human players, the live audience, or public opinion, they have all encouraged the technology companies and robot players. Who doesn't stumble on the road to growth? The development of an industry is no different.
無論是參賽選手、現(xiàn)場觀眾,還是公眾輿論,都給予了科技公司和機器人極大的鼓勵和支持。誰的成長道路上不會摔跤呢?一個產(chǎn)業(yè)的發(fā)展也是如此。
無論是參賽選手、現(xiàn)場觀眾,還是公眾輿論,都給予了科技公司和機器人極大的鼓勵和支持。誰的成長道路上不會摔跤呢?一個產(chǎn)業(yè)的發(fā)展也是如此。
Every time the robot falls, the system will receive thousands of sets of abnormal data. These data not only record the current state, but also include information on how to allocate joint torque and adjust step frequency on different road surfaces, helping the R&D team improve the stability and adaptability of the product in complex environments. The humanoid robot industry is also accelerating the process of landing applications through such "extreme tests" time and time again.
每次機器人跌倒時,系統(tǒng)都會收集到數(shù)千組異常數(shù)據(jù)。這些數(shù)據(jù)不僅記錄了當前的狀態(tài),還包括了在不同路面上如何分配關節(jié)扭矩、調(diào)整步頻等信息,幫助研發(fā)團隊提升產(chǎn)品在復雜環(huán)境下的穩(wěn)定性與適應性。人形機器人產(chǎn)業(yè)正是通過這樣的“極限測試”不斷加速落地應用。
每次機器人跌倒時,系統(tǒng)都會收集到數(shù)千組異常數(shù)據(jù)。這些數(shù)據(jù)不僅記錄了當前的狀態(tài),還包括了在不同路面上如何分配關節(jié)扭矩、調(diào)整步頻等信息,幫助研發(fā)團隊提升產(chǎn)品在復雜環(huán)境下的穩(wěn)定性與適應性。人形機器人產(chǎn)業(yè)正是通過這樣的“極限測試”不斷加速落地應用。
When the world's first car was introduced, it wasn't much faster than a horse-drawn carriage, yet look at our daily lives now. Robots are the same, perhaps when humanoid robots become widely integrated into society in the future, we will remember this race. It’s "one small step for robots, one giant leap for the industry."
當世界上第一輛汽車問世時,它的速度還不如馬車,可看看我們現(xiàn)在的生活。機器人也是如此,或許當人形機器人全面融入社會的那一天到來時,我們會回憶起這次比賽。它代表“機器人的一小步,機器人產(chǎn)業(yè)的一大步”。
當世界上第一輛汽車問世時,它的速度還不如馬車,可看看我們現(xiàn)在的生活。機器人也是如此,或許當人形機器人全面融入社會的那一天到來時,我們會回憶起這次比賽。它代表“機器人的一小步,機器人產(chǎn)業(yè)的一大步”。
Sosow Nima
A little bit worried.
Not about a Schwarzenegger-style Terminator emerging to destroy human civilization.
我有點擔心。
不是擔心會出現(xiàn)像施瓦辛格飾演的終結者那樣摧毀人類文明的機器人。
(An interesting fact: China's massive surveillance system is also called "Skynet," but it has no connection to the Skynet in Terminator. It's just a reference to a traditional Chinese idiom describing a criminal who, even if not punished by humans, will face divine retribution: 天網(wǎng)恢恢疏而不漏 The net of heaven is vast and wide, with no gaps to slip through.)
(一個有趣的現(xiàn)象:中國的智能化公共安全監(jiān)控系統(tǒng)也被稱為“天網(wǎng)”,但它與電影《終結者》中的Skynet毫無關系。這只是源于一句中國成語,描述罪犯即使逃過人世間的懲罰,也逃不過天理報應:“天網(wǎng)恢恢,疏而不漏”——上天的羅網(wǎng)廣大無邊,雖然看起來稀疏,卻沒有任何縫隙可以逃脫。)
A little bit worried.
Not about a Schwarzenegger-style Terminator emerging to destroy human civilization.
我有點擔心。
不是擔心會出現(xiàn)像施瓦辛格飾演的終結者那樣摧毀人類文明的機器人。
(An interesting fact: China's massive surveillance system is also called "Skynet," but it has no connection to the Skynet in Terminator. It's just a reference to a traditional Chinese idiom describing a criminal who, even if not punished by humans, will face divine retribution: 天網(wǎng)恢恢疏而不漏 The net of heaven is vast and wide, with no gaps to slip through.)
(一個有趣的現(xiàn)象:中國的智能化公共安全監(jiān)控系統(tǒng)也被稱為“天網(wǎng)”,但它與電影《終結者》中的Skynet毫無關系。這只是源于一句中國成語,描述罪犯即使逃過人世間的懲罰,也逃不過天理報應:“天網(wǎng)恢恢,疏而不漏”——上天的羅網(wǎng)廣大無邊,雖然看起來稀疏,卻沒有任何縫隙可以逃脫。)
What I'm worried about is the replacement of workers.
我真正擔心的是勞動力替代問題。
我真正擔心的是勞動力替代問題。
China is rapidly expanding unmanned factories, driverless cars, and the like.
中國在無人工廠、無人駕駛汽車等領域狂飆突進。
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中國在無人工廠、無人駕駛汽車等領域狂飆突進。
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The momentum is so fierce that in just over a decade, China has gone from zero to the leader in this industry, with a commanding, cliff-like lead.
發(fā)展的勢頭非常迅猛,僅僅十余年的時間,中國就實現(xiàn)了從零基礎迅速躍升為整個行業(yè)的領頭羊,手握競爭對手遙不可及的斷崖式領先優(yōu)勢。
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發(fā)展的勢頭非常迅猛,僅僅十余年的時間,中國就實現(xiàn)了從零基礎迅速躍升為整個行業(yè)的領頭羊,手握競爭對手遙不可及的斷崖式領先優(yōu)勢。
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Based on my understanding of Chinese national character, this stems from the fear of a century of national humiliation. We fear falling behind any country in advanced technology. It’s roughly like: if the U.S. has it, we must have it too. If Russia has it, we must have it too! No matter what it is!
根據(jù)我對中國人性格的理解,這種發(fā)展動力源自對百年民族屈辱歷史的“恐懼”。我們害怕在任何先進科技領域落后于其他國家。大體上就是:如果美國有,我們就必須要有;如果俄羅斯有,我們也必須要有!不管那是什么!
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根據(jù)我對中國人性格的理解,這種發(fā)展動力源自對百年民族屈辱歷史的“恐懼”。我們害怕在任何先進科技領域落后于其他國家。大體上就是:如果美國有,我們就必須要有;如果俄羅斯有,我們也必須要有!不管那是什么!
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In the 1980s, China even conducted research on human paranormal abilities, taking it very seriously. Because it was said that the U.S. and the Soviet unx were studying it, well then, we had to study it too, even if it seemed absurd like human paranormal abilities.
上世紀80年代,中國甚至認真研究過人類的特異功能。因為聽說美國和蘇聯(lián)都在研究,那么我們當然也得研究,哪怕聽起來多么荒誕,比如什么人類超能力。
上世紀80年代,中國甚至認真研究過人類的特異功能。因為聽說美國和蘇聯(lián)都在研究,那么我們當然也得研究,哪怕聽起來多么荒誕,比如什么人類超能力。
Interestingly, when I was a kid, I thought the leader in the robotics industry would surely be Germany, with Japan in second place. Maybe because one of my elders was obsessively studying West German and Japanese technology and couldn’t stop praising those two countries.
有趣的是,小時候我一直以為機器人產(chǎn)業(yè)的領頭羊會是德國,而日本排在第二。也許是因為我家中一位長輩癡迷于學習西德和日本的技術,并不停地稱贊這兩個國家。
有趣的是,小時候我一直以為機器人產(chǎn)業(yè)的領頭羊會是德國,而日本排在第二。也許是因為我家中一位長輩癡迷于學習西德和日本的技術,并不停地稱贊這兩個國家。
I even remember a Japanese anime about robots used in warfare, where German robots slightly outperformed Japanese ones. It seems even the Japanese back then held Germany in high regard.
我還記得一部日本關于戰(zhàn)爭中使用機器人的動漫,在那部動畫里,德國制造的機器人略勝一籌??磥砟菚r就連日本人也很推崇德國。
我還記得一部日本關于戰(zhàn)爭中使用機器人的動漫,在那部動畫里,德國制造的機器人略勝一籌??磥砟菚r就連日本人也很推崇德國。
China’s progress in robotics is great—but what about the workers?
中國在機器人領域的發(fā)展確實令人欣喜,但問題是:工人怎么辦?
中國在機器人領域的發(fā)展確實令人欣喜,但問題是:工人怎么辦?
Both in China and abroad.
不僅是中國的工人,還有國外的。
不僅是中國的工人,還有國外的。
There’s a saying that China’s rise has effectively blocked the path to industrialization for other developing countries.
有一種說法認為,中國的崛起實際上已經(jīng)堵死了其他發(fā)展中國家工業(yè)化的道路。
有一種說法認為,中國的崛起實際上已經(jīng)堵死了其他發(fā)展中國家工業(yè)化的道路。
There’s some truth to that.Almost every country starting industrialization from scratch begins with textiles.
這有一定道理。幾乎所有從零開始工業(yè)化的國家,最開始都是從紡織業(yè)起步的。
這有一定道理。幾乎所有從零開始工業(yè)化的國家,最開始都是從紡織業(yè)起步的。

Take Bangladesh, for example—it’s trying now, but I doubt they can accumulate the startup capital and technology needed for industrialization.
以孟加拉國為例——它現(xiàn)在也在嘗試工業(yè)化,但我懷疑它能否積累起足夠的啟動資金和技術來完成這一過程。
First, raw materials, processing machinery, and even electricity are all imported from China.
首先,原材料、加工機械,甚至是電力都全部依賴從中國進口;
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首先,原材料、加工機械,甚至是電力都全部依賴從中國進口;
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Second, China’s unmanned textile factories have a crushing advantage over them.
其次,中國無人化紡織工廠的競爭優(yōu)勢具有壓倒性。
其次,中國無人化紡織工廠的競爭優(yōu)勢具有壓倒性。
Chinese netizens are heatedly debating this too.In China, the situation is manageable—worst case, the government hands out money to support workers.But what about other developing countries?
中國的網(wǎng)民對此也有激烈的爭論。在中國國內(nèi),情況還算可控——最壞的情況也就是政府發(fā)放補貼扶持產(chǎn)業(yè)工人。但其他國家呢?
中國的網(wǎng)民對此也有激烈的爭論。在中國國內(nèi),情況還算可控——最壞的情況也就是政府發(fā)放補貼扶持產(chǎn)業(yè)工人。但其他國家呢?
What can be done?No one knows!
能做些什么嗎?沒人知道!
能做些什么嗎?沒人知道!
The political textbooks I studied as a kid said our goal was to build a com...st society worldwide—a beautiful new world without exploitation, oppression, where everyone contributes according to their ability and receives according to their needs.
我小時候?qū)W的政治課本說我們的目標是建設一個全球性的GCZY社會——一個沒有壓迫與剝削的美好新世界,每個人各盡所能,按需分配。
我小時候?qū)W的政治課本說我們的目標是建設一個全球性的GCZY社會——一個沒有壓迫與剝削的美好新世界,每個人各盡所能,按需分配。
And now?The outlook isn’t great.
而如今呢?前景并不樂觀。
而如今呢?前景并不樂觀。
With robotics advancing so rapidly, it might leave even more workers in third-world countries jobless!
隨著機器人技術的飛速發(fā)展,可能會讓第三世界的更多工人失去工作!
隨著機器人技術的飛速發(fā)展,可能會讓第三世界的更多工人失去工作!
Personally, I’m quite concerned, but I don’t know what the future holds.
我個人對此感到相當憂慮,但卻不知道未來將會如何。
我個人對此感到相當憂慮,但卻不知道未來將會如何。
What will the future be like?Heaven knows!
未來會是怎樣?只有天知道!
未來會是怎樣?只有天知道!
Li Pengii
I see an episode of Star Trek Voyager turned real life.
我覺得這就是現(xiàn)實版的《星際迷航:航海家號》。
I see an episode of Star Trek Voyager turned real life.
我覺得這就是現(xiàn)實版的《星際迷航:航海家號》。
There’s an episode called Virtuoso where the Voyager Crew give a musical recital to the Qomar. They’re not impressed. They are however impressed with the Holographic doctor who can sing and becomes famous.
其中有一集叫《天才歌手》,講的是航海家號的船員為Qomar種族舉行了一場音樂會。對方并不感興趣,但他們卻對全息醫(yī)生產(chǎn)生了興趣,因為他會唱歌,還成了名人。
其中有一集叫《天才歌手》,講的是航海家號的船員為Qomar種族舉行了一場音樂會。對方并不感興趣,但他們卻對全息醫(yī)生產(chǎn)生了興趣,因為他會唱歌,還成了名人。
The doctor wants to stay with the Qomar as a celebrity. But the Qomar are only interested in how they can improve this technology and by the end of the episode they manage to do it and the Doctor returns to Voyager.
這位醫(yī)生想留在Qomar星球成為一名明星。然而Qomar人只關心如何改進這項技術,最終他們成功做到了,醫(yī)生也只能回到航海家號。
這位醫(yī)生想留在Qomar星球成為一名明星。然而Qomar人只關心如何改進這項技術,最終他們成功做到了,醫(yī)生也只能回到航海家號。
So? We’ll see humanoid robots do sporty things and we’ll see a split between human and robotic sports. Where boffins craft robots that are faster and more capable than humans.
所以我認為,我們將會看到人形機器人從事體育運動,并且人類與機器人的競技將產(chǎn)生分化??茖W家們將打造比人類更快、更強的機器人。
所以我認為,我們將會看到人形機器人從事體育運動,并且人類與機器人的競技將產(chǎn)生分化??茖W家們將打造比人類更快、更強的機器人。
Where we’re at is at the John Henry stage of technology.
我們現(xiàn)在正處于“約翰·亨利時代”。
我們現(xiàn)在正處于“約翰·亨利時代”。
John Henry is an American folk hero, where he uses his hammer to beat a steam drill but at the cost of his life.
約翰·亨利是一個美國民間英雄,他用錘子打敗了蒸汽鉆機,但代價是自己的生命。
約翰·亨利是一個美國民間英雄,他用錘子打敗了蒸汽鉆機,但代價是自己的生命。
I think we’ll likely see humans attempt to challenge the power of the machines for a while they’ll win but suffer the same fate as John Henry.
我認為我們很可能會看到人類試圖挑戰(zhàn)機器的能力,起初可能還會贏一陣子,但最終也會遭遇約翰·亨利的命運。
我認為我們很可能會看到人類試圖挑戰(zhàn)機器的能力,起初可能還會贏一陣子,但最終也會遭遇約翰·亨利的命運。
This is a fairly good summary of John Henry.
這是一個對約翰·亨利故事較好的總結。
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這是一個對約翰·亨利故事較好的總結。
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Then we’ll likely see laws where robots don’t compete directly with humans and we’ll see a split say the Olympics (normal) vs Robotic Olympics.
然后我們可能會看到法律出臺,禁止機器人直接與人類競爭,從而出現(xiàn)兩個獨立的比賽體系:奧運會(人類)和機器人奧運會。
然后我們可能會看到法律出臺,禁止機器人直接與人類競爭,從而出現(xiàn)兩個獨立的比賽體系:奧運會(人類)和機器人奧運會。
Mark Vernall
BEIJING (Reuters) -Twenty-one humanoid robots joined thousands of runners at the Yizhuang half-marathon in Beijing on Saturday, the first time these machines have raced alongside humans over a 21-km (13-mile) course.
【北京消息,路透社】周六,在北京亦莊舉行的半程馬拉松比賽中,21臺人形機器人加入了數(shù)千名跑者的行列,這是這些機器人首次與人類一起完成21公里(13英里)長距離賽程。
BEIJING (Reuters) -Twenty-one humanoid robots joined thousands of runners at the Yizhuang half-marathon in Beijing on Saturday, the first time these machines have raced alongside humans over a 21-km (13-mile) course.
【北京消息,路透社】周六,在北京亦莊舉行的半程馬拉松比賽中,21臺人形機器人加入了數(shù)千名跑者的行列,這是這些機器人首次與人類一起完成21公里(13英里)長距離賽程。
The robots from Chinese manufacturers such as DroidVP and Noetix Robotics came in all shapes and sizes, some shorter than 120 cm (3.9 ft), others as tall as 1.8 m (5.9 ft). One company boasted that its robot looked almost human, with feminine features and the ability to wink and smile.
來自中國企業(yè)如DroidVP和Noetix Robotics的機器人形態(tài)各異,有的身高不足120厘米(3.9英尺),有的高達1.8米(5.9英尺)。一家公司甚至宣稱他們的機器人外貌幾乎與真人無異,擁有女性特征并能眨眼微笑。
來自中國企業(yè)如DroidVP和Noetix Robotics的機器人形態(tài)各異,有的身高不足120厘米(3.9英尺),有的高達1.8米(5.9英尺)。一家公司甚至宣稱他們的機器人外貌幾乎與真人無異,擁有女性特征并能眨眼微笑。
What is your reaction to seeing the robots running a half marathon?
My reaction…a glimpse of what’s to come, very, very soon…..
你看到機器人參加半程馬拉松有何反應?我的反應……是瞥見了即將發(fā)生的事情,而且就在非常、非常近的將來……
My reaction…a glimpse of what’s to come, very, very soon…..
你看到機器人參加半程馬拉松有何反應?我的反應……是瞥見了即將發(fā)生的事情,而且就在非常、非常近的將來……
..…there’s no real surprises here. The advancement in technology over the past 5 years or so has been tremendous, and with the advent of AI going mainstream, (around November 2024 with OpenAI’s ChatGPT), I think it’s quite simply inevitable.
其實沒什么出乎意料的地方。過去五年左右,技術的進步是巨大的,而人工智能的普及(2024年11月OpenAI推出ChatGPT后尤為顯著)我認為是不可避免的。
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其實沒什么出乎意料的地方。過去五年左右,技術的進步是巨大的,而人工智能的普及(2024年11月OpenAI推出ChatGPT后尤為顯著)我認為是不可避免的。
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And once you start connecting and integrating AI with advanced robotics, well, its easy to see where its going to go. The writing is on the wall folks and has been for some time…if you can’t see it, get your eyes checked..!
一旦你開始將人工智能與先進機器人技術結合在一起,它的方向就很明顯了。墻上的字早就寫著呢,大家要是看不出來,最好檢查一下視力。
一旦你開始將人工智能與先進機器人技術結合在一起,它的方向就很明顯了。墻上的字早就寫著呢,大家要是看不出來,最好檢查一下視力。
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Answer : Innovative and amazing
Explanation: Giving robots the ability to walk and run is one of the most crucial obxtives in robotics and engineering in general. It is what people in the 20th century could not even imagine. However, with everything, there are pros and also cons. If we ever get the chance to have robots who can run and even sprint, they could revolutionize warfare and, in a sense, bring more harm than good.
答案:創(chuàng)新且令人驚嘆
解釋:賦予機器人行走和奔跑的能力是機器人技術和工程領域最重要的目標之一。這是20世紀人們連想象都無法做到的事。然而,凡事總有兩面性。如果我們有機會擁有可以奔跑甚至沖刺的機器人,它們可能會徹底改變未來戰(zhàn)爭的方式,從某種意義上來說,帶來的害處可能超過好處。
Answer : Innovative and amazing
Explanation: Giving robots the ability to walk and run is one of the most crucial obxtives in robotics and engineering in general. It is what people in the 20th century could not even imagine. However, with everything, there are pros and also cons. If we ever get the chance to have robots who can run and even sprint, they could revolutionize warfare and, in a sense, bring more harm than good.
答案:創(chuàng)新且令人驚嘆
解釋:賦予機器人行走和奔跑的能力是機器人技術和工程領域最重要的目標之一。這是20世紀人們連想象都無法做到的事。然而,凡事總有兩面性。如果我們有機會擁有可以奔跑甚至沖刺的機器人,它們可能會徹底改變未來戰(zhàn)爭的方式,從某種意義上來說,帶來的害處可能超過好處。
Steven Cooper
We've reached the point in technology where we're not that impressed by such an event. I'm ambivalent myself. But perhaps I should not be, one of our biggest fears would be an army of robots deciding that we are ineffective and should be terminated. I once watch the documentary on seven ways the world would end. All doomsayers! But one of them was terminated by the robots. Straight out of iRobot. Personally I don't think AI needs to go any further. But I know I'm speaking to the choir on this.
我們似乎已經(jīng)到達了一個技術階段,對這種事件不再感到特別驚訝。我自己也有些矛盾。但也許我不該這樣。我們最大的恐懼之一可能是,一群機器人決定我們?nèi)祟愋侍?,應當被消滅。我曾?jīng)看過一部關于世界末日七種方式的紀錄片。里面全是悲觀論調(diào)!其中一個結局就是被機器人終結。簡直就像是電影《我,機器人》的翻版。就我個人而言,我不認為人工智能還需要繼續(xù)發(fā)展下去。我知道我說這話可能是在對同行說廢話。
We've reached the point in technology where we're not that impressed by such an event. I'm ambivalent myself. But perhaps I should not be, one of our biggest fears would be an army of robots deciding that we are ineffective and should be terminated. I once watch the documentary on seven ways the world would end. All doomsayers! But one of them was terminated by the robots. Straight out of iRobot. Personally I don't think AI needs to go any further. But I know I'm speaking to the choir on this.
我們似乎已經(jīng)到達了一個技術階段,對這種事件不再感到特別驚訝。我自己也有些矛盾。但也許我不該這樣。我們最大的恐懼之一可能是,一群機器人決定我們?nèi)祟愋侍?,應當被消滅。我曾?jīng)看過一部關于世界末日七種方式的紀錄片。里面全是悲觀論調(diào)!其中一個結局就是被機器人終結。簡直就像是電影《我,機器人》的翻版。就我個人而言,我不認為人工智能還需要繼續(xù)發(fā)展下去。我知道我說這話可能是在對同行說廢話。
Yaozhou
In Chinese media, almost every comment is negative—people call these robots “remote-controlled toys.”
On the track, the robots run up front while staff in the back steer them with remotes, and the robots are wildly overhyped.
在中文媒體上,幾乎每條評論都是負面的——人們把這些機器人稱為“遙控玩具”。
在賽道上,機器人跑在前面,而后面的工作人員用遙控器操控它們,這些機器人被過度吹噓了。
In Chinese media, almost every comment is negative—people call these robots “remote-controlled toys.”
On the track, the robots run up front while staff in the back steer them with remotes, and the robots are wildly overhyped.
在中文媒體上,幾乎每條評論都是負面的——人們把這些機器人稱為“遙控玩具”。
在賽道上,機器人跑在前面,而后面的工作人員用遙控器操控它們,這些機器人被過度吹噓了。
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有一句古老的中國諺語:“千里之行,始于足下?!币馑际侨魏蝹ゴ蟮穆贸潭际菑倪~出第一步開始的。這是一種比喻,說明一切成功的事情都是由小到大逐步積累起來的。
No matter where it is manufactured, it is made step by step from 0 to 100.
機器人參加馬拉松比賽表現(xiàn)的并不完美,但至少它暴露了問題!下次一定會比這次更好!最終,量變引發(fā)質(zhì)變!
無論在哪里制造,任何產(chǎn)品都是從零到一百一步步完成的。
Given the global declining birth rate and an increasing elderly population robot manufacturing and food production might be the only way to prevent mass starvation. Maybe it will happen just in time.
鑒于全球出生率下降和老年人口增加,機器人制造和食品生產(chǎn)或許是避免大規(guī)模饑荒的唯一辦法。也許這一切剛好及時到來。
This reads like 19th century Europe to me. Eventually the workers became consumers working in the service industries (in between the com...st manifest was written and democracy and law settled) - let’s hope we can skip the world wars.
這段話讀起來像19世紀的歐洲。最終,工人變成了服務業(yè)的消費者(在《共產(chǎn)黨宣言》發(fā)表之后與民主法治建立之前之間——希望我們能跳過世界大戰(zhàn)階段)。
With service robots also becoming popular, there might not be enough service jobs for them.
隨著服務機器人也變得普及,可能連服務崗位都不夠分配給它們了。
例如,現(xiàn)在中國大多數(shù)酒店都配備了服務機器人,只要你打個電話到前臺,幾分鐘后它們就能把物品送到你的房間。幾年前我去中國時,看到這樣的機器人跟我一起坐電梯,覺得非常有趣。
There is at least one Chinese-run restaurant in New Jersey today (2025) which has a cute little robot carrying the food to one’s table.
就在2025年的新澤西州,今天已經(jīng)有一家中餐館使用了一個可愛的小機器人,負責把食物端到顧客的餐桌上。
Chinese hotpot chain Haidilao has equipped its branches in USA with service robots just like those in China, it’s fun to see them running around bringing all the dishes to your table.So far I haven’t see such robots in non-Chinese restaurants outside of China.
中國的火鍋連鎖品牌“海底撈”在美國分店也配備了與中國本地一樣的服務機器人,看著它們在餐廳里跑來跑去送菜,確實挺有趣的。不過迄今為止,我還沒在中國以外的國家看到非中資餐廳使用這類機器人。
Glenn Bartusch
The good thing about the American chain restaurants is that their hotpot isn't brewed in gutter oil…
美國連鎖餐廳的好處是,他們的火鍋底料不是用地溝油做的……
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But American pork contains Ractopamine to promote lean meat, a chemical banned by most countries for being harmful to human health.
That’s why we never order pork when eating hotpot in USA, while we always order it when eating hotpot in China.
但美國豬肉含有促進瘦肉生長的“萊克多巴胺”(Ractopamine),這是一種大多數(shù)國家因?qū)θ梭w健康有害而禁止使用的化學物質(zhì)。這就是為什么我們在美國吃火鍋時從不點豬肉,而在國內(nèi)吃火鍋時都會點豬肉。
Failed Artist must not lead German again.
失敗的藝術家不能再領導德國了。
Even the service industry may be under threat. Unless your business offers bespoke services, most people appreciate better efficient service.
就連服務業(yè)也可能面臨威脅。除非你的生意提供定制化服務,否則大多數(shù)人會更喜歡高效的服務。
You are going to a place of perfection.This world will never be perfect.There will be always greed, selfishness,…
你正在走向一個完美的地方。這個世界永遠不會完美。貪婪、自私……這些永遠存在。
中國只是在盡其所能地對內(nèi)對外推進發(fā)展。當然會有錯誤、失誤、調(diào)整……
但人類本來就是不完美的。所以沒必要一開始就擔心這些進步是否會帶來問題。
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進步必須繼續(xù)。你無法阻止科技的發(fā)展,否則你就會被那個最強大的霸權吃掉,被迫屈服于它的統(tǒng)治。
你只能接受人類創(chuàng)造的問題,根據(jù)情況不斷調(diào)整適應,生活還會繼續(xù),直到你離開這個世界為止。
The Buddha says ‘Excess is poison.’
佛陀說:“過猶不及。”
中國必須努力讓“中國制造”成為品質(zhì)的象征。日本曾經(jīng)也只是做手持紙扇的國家;但通過追求“質(zhì)量”的理念,它迅速提升了國際聲譽。
中國品牌必須以穩(wěn)健的質(zhì)量為基礎,在保持價格競爭力的同時,爭取在全球舞臺上的存在感。讓西方品牌向中國制造商采購的時候,愿意為產(chǎn)品支付更高的溢價。
I assume you are describing current state.
“Cliff like lead”? Seriously? Please justify that.
我猜你在描述當前的情況。
你說中國擁有“斷崖式的領先優(yōu)勢”?認真嗎?請給出依據(jù)。
順便問一下,目前全球十大自動化公司中,沒有一家是中國的。我投資了一個包含150家機器人和自動化公司的ETF基金,里面根本沒有中國企業(yè)。
即使往下看一層,比如數(shù)控機床供應商,排名前十的也都來自美國、德國和日本。
我認為中國確實是自動化技術的主要用戶之一。這并不奇怪,因為中國承擔了世界上大量中低端制造業(yè)的任務。
你說什么“無人紡織工廠”?你能舉個例子嗎?機器人連折衣服這種最簡單的事情都很困難。
別誤會我的意思。我也認為自動化最終會讓許多人失業(yè),并給發(fā)展中國家的傳統(tǒng)工業(yè)化路徑帶來挑戰(zhàn),但你這是在幻想。
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最后你還說:“一方面,中國工人瘋狂加班,導致美國工人失業(yè)。”你不會是在信特朗普那一套吧?美國的失業(yè)率其實還維持在較低水平,只不過工作崗位不在制造業(yè)而已。大多數(shù)制造業(yè)工作工資相對較低。
Automation is the flip side, or the Chinese government’s solution, to the “demographic crisis” that mass media keeps going on about.
自動化是大眾媒體常說的“人口危機”的另一面,或者說是中國政府對此的回答。
隨著中國人口達到峰值,勞動力越來越昂貴,自動化將減少中國工業(yè)對“人海戰(zhàn)術”的依賴,巧妙地規(guī)避這一即將到來的危機,同時保持強大而經(jīng)濟的工業(yè)基礎。相比之下,美國卻把自己的工業(yè)基礎轉(zhuǎn)移到了日本、韓國、中國,現(xiàn)在又轉(zhuǎn)向越南和墨西哥。
勞動力越來越少?工資越來越高?工作危險性大?沒問題——用機器人替代。不需要午休、不需要病假、100%一致性。雖然前期投入高,但從長遠來看更便宜,而且更能應對人口結構變化帶來的挑戰(zhàn)。
…seeing the shorter smaller robot lose to the taller one feels …do you really need data to know the shorter one won't do as well ?
……看著個小個子機器人輸給高個子機器人,感覺有點……你真的需要數(shù)據(jù)才知道小個子表現(xiàn)不好嗎?
If you set both stride length and frequency to an appropriate value, a shorter robot won't always lose to a taller one.
如果你設定了合適的步長和頻率,身材較矮的機器人未必總是輸給更高的機器人。
It’s amazing how science fiction becomes technological reality in 50 or 60 years. Like Gort and Robbie the Robot of the 1950’s to Robots running the half marathon now. Unbelievable.
真是令人驚嘆,科幻片中的設想竟然在五六十年后變成了現(xiàn)實。從上世紀50年代的Gort和Robbie機器人,到現(xiàn)在可以跑半程馬拉松的機器人,簡直不可思議。
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I... .ROBOT ....(at least they can't fail drugs tests )..
我... .機器人 ....(至少它們不會在藥檢中失敗 )..