為什么對美國商品加征關(guān)稅是可以接受的，而美國實(shí)施對等關(guān)稅卻不可接受呢？

I dont really think he is stupid - I think he is canny and he believes YOUR ignorance will allow him to distract you enough that you won't even notice all the stuff he and Elon Musk are really up to. When you finally do notice it will be too late. Way too late.

我真不覺得他傻，我覺得他很精明。而且他覺得你很無知，這樣他就能充分分散你的注意力，讓你根本注意不到他和埃隆·馬斯克到底在搞什么名堂。等你最終察覺到的時(shí)候，就太晚了，實(shí)在是太晚了。

Wayne Smith
Back in 2018, trump signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico, waffling on about the greatest trade agreement ever.

早在2018年，特朗普就與加拿大和墨西哥簽署了一項(xiàng)貿(mào)易協(xié)定，還滔滔不絕地吹噓這是有史以來最偉大的貿(mào)易協(xié)定。

Now, oh they are ripping us off like the rest of the world.

現(xiàn)在，哦，他們和世界上其他地方的人一樣在剝削我們。

Trump hit China with tariffs back then and who lost that was the US, because China started to wean itself on US goods like corn and soybeans. Really, besides Ag production China can get at home or elsewhere or pour a few million into Chatpg and do better than US tech companies.

特朗普當(dāng)時(shí)對中國加征關(guān)稅，結(jié)果受損的卻是美國，因?yàn)橹袊_始減少對美國玉米和大豆等商品的依賴。實(shí)際上，除了農(nóng)產(chǎn)品，中國可以在國內(nèi)或其他地方獲取所需物資，或者向ChatGPT投入幾百萬美元，就能比美國科技公司做得更好。

Americans have this pic of China being an agricultural country of rice fields. Far from the truth. China in the most part is more modern that the US and others.

美國人認(rèn)為中國是一個(gè)有著稻田的農(nóng)業(yè)國家。這與事實(shí)相去甚遠(yuǎn)。在很大程度上，中國比美國和其他國家更現(xiàn)代化。

The problem is the US until trump 2.0 had tariffs on China but targeted and Biden did the same. Chips Act but also, tariffs the largest threat to the US, making chips and add the carrot. Worked.

問題在于，在美國特朗普第二任期之前就對中國征收針對性關(guān)稅，拜登也這么做了。出臺(tái)了《芯片法案》，但關(guān)稅也是對美國最大的威脅，既要制造芯片又得給點(diǎn)甜頭。這招奏效了。

trump has no idea of world trade, nor manufacturing. His supposed experience is in real estate and if true, he has no inkling of the world.

特朗普對世界貿(mào)易和制造業(yè)一竅不通。他所謂的經(jīng)驗(yàn)是在房地產(chǎn)領(lǐng)域，即便這是真的，他對世界也是一無所知。

So lets 145% tariffs on China goods. He has sent many small businesses and bigger ones into shutting. The US auto industry relies on some parts from China. No matter US buyers will pay the diff.

所以對中國商品征收145%的關(guān)稅。他已經(jīng)導(dǎo)致許多大小企業(yè)倒閉。美國汽車行業(yè)依賴一些來自中國的零部件。不管怎樣，美國買家都得支付差價(jià)。
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A US steel company said they were off loading 1200 US workers cos the downturn of US cars. More to come.

一家美國鋼鐵公司稱，由于美國汽車業(yè)不景氣，他們正在解雇1200名美國工人。后續(xù)還會(huì)有更多（裁員）。
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The stable Genius does not have a clue but maybe inside trading.

這位所謂沉穩(wěn)的天才毫無頭緒，不過也許存在內(nèi)幕交易。

Irina Nic
tRump needs money to pay the US debt and the new deficit projected due to the tax cuts he wants to implement. So he came up with the idea of tariffs instead of creating a new tax. But tariffs are taxes that US are paying, but in contrast to a regular tax, now you bring in the equation some foreign countries as well. In his mind, in short term people in US will continue to buy products and pay his tariffs and in the long term the tariffs will stimulate new manufacturing in US which will bring again more money. The problems that he didn't outline and stupid in US can’t understand are:

特朗普需要資金來償還美國債務(wù)以及因他想要實(shí)施的減稅政策而預(yù)計(jì)產(chǎn)生的新赤字。于是他想出了征收關(guān)稅的主意，而不是開征新稅。但關(guān)稅是美國人在支付的稅款，與常規(guī)稅收不同的是，現(xiàn)在這一問題還涉及到一些外國。在他看來，短期內(nèi)美國人會(huì)繼續(xù)購買產(chǎn)品并支付他所征收的關(guān)稅，從長遠(yuǎn)來看，關(guān)稅將刺激美國新的制造業(yè)發(fā)展，進(jìn)而再次帶來更多資金。而他沒有說明且美國那些愚蠢之人也理解不了的問題是：

US will significantly pay more for products. Either they come from overseas and have tariffs or are produced in US and cost significant more than the original price- cue the inflation that is made by tRump.

美國將為產(chǎn)品支付更多的費(fèi)用。這些產(chǎn)品要么來自海外需繳納關(guān)稅，要么在美國本土生產(chǎn)，但成本比原價(jià)高出很多——這都是特朗普造成的通貨膨脹所致。

Other countries will stop buying US products. tRump can force governments to agree to some deals, but he underestimated the toxic effect his way of talking has. Businesses and regular people started to boycott US products. Heck, we even stopped travelling to US. We also started to boycott the stock and bond market in US. Did you hear about SELL AMERICA? Look at your stock market and start crying.

其他國家將停止購買美國產(chǎn)品。特朗普可以迫使各國政府達(dá)成一些協(xié)議，但他低估了自己說話方式的負(fù)面影響。企業(yè)和普通民眾已經(jīng)開始抵制美國產(chǎn)品。哎呀，我們甚至都不去美國旅游了。我們還開始抵制美國的股票和債券市場。你聽說過“拋售美國”嗎？看看你們的股市，哭去吧。

US has a lot of debt that is held by its enemies now. As he is treating all of us as enemies. So countries now get together and sell your bonds which is your debt, like it happened 2 weeks ago while you were sleeping in US, the mystery sell off of bonds. Guess what, because of that sell off, tRump was forced to postpone the reciprocal tariffs. So when you want to make tRump to do something, the whole thing will play again.

美國現(xiàn)在有大量債務(wù)掌握在其敵人手中。因?yàn)樗盐覀兯腥硕籍?dāng)作敵人。所以現(xiàn)在各國聯(lián)合起來拋售你們的債券，也就是你們的債務(wù)。就像兩周前在美國你們還在睡夢中時(shí)發(fā)生的神秘債券拋售事件一樣。你猜怎么著，由于那次拋售，特朗普被迫推遲了互惠關(guān)稅。所以當(dāng)你想讓特朗普做某件事時(shí)，這一切還會(huì)再次上演。

tRump is now accusing the Fed Jerome Powell that he doesn't lower the interest rate. If by any chance that will happen, your dollar will go down a lot. This means the prices will go up again as let's face it, you still don't produce stuff yet. This will compound the tariffs. You will pay again more money on products, hence the inflation will go up again.

特朗普現(xiàn)在指責(zé)美聯(lián)儲(chǔ)主席杰羅姆·鮑威爾沒有降低利率。如果真的出現(xiàn)這種情況，美元將會(huì)大幅貶值。這意味著物價(jià)會(huì)再次上漲，因?yàn)檎f實(shí)話，你們?nèi)匀粵]有生產(chǎn)出足夠的產(chǎn)品。這會(huì)使關(guān)稅問題更加復(fù)雜。你們購買產(chǎn)品時(shí)將再次支付更多的錢，因此通貨膨脹將會(huì)再次加劇。

All he does is to bankrupt US piece by piece, every day. Good luck with that, after all he is an expert in that, his companies got bankrupt 6 times and at least one time he bankrupt a casino, which is a major achievement in terms of bankrupting a business. Understand other countries have tariffs in place to protect a certain vital sector. Not for everything like he does. Also he underestimated the amount of time will take for this process to go from bad to good. It will take years and years, which again he doesn't have.

他每天所做的就是一點(diǎn)一點(diǎn)地把美國搞破產(chǎn)。祝他好運(yùn)吧，畢竟他在這方面是個(gè)行家，他的公司已經(jīng)破產(chǎn)6次了，至少有一次他還搞垮了一家賭場，就企業(yè)破產(chǎn)而言，這可是一項(xiàng)“偉大成就”。要知道其他國家設(shè)置關(guān)稅是為了保護(hù)某些重要產(chǎn)業(yè)，而不是像他這樣對所有東西都（設(shè)置關(guān)稅）。而且，他低估了這個(gè)從糟糕狀況好轉(zhuǎn)所需要的時(shí)間。這得花上好多年，可他又沒那么多時(shí)間。

He will either be forced to postpone China tariffs very soon or face the music from the constituents.

他要么很快被迫推遲對中國商品加征關(guān)稅，要么就得承受選民的壓力。

China stopped buying oil from US, they stopped buying beef and agricultural products. Last time they did this while tRump 1.0, after the tariffs were down again, they never returned to buy again from US. This will happen again and you will lose market share in China and everywhere else. The rest of the world started to live again, we moved on after the initial shock, it's you who need to live with the consequences of his actions. So next time vote for him again, it will get better and better. Depends only for who.

中國停止從美國購買石油，也停止購買牛肉和農(nóng)產(chǎn)品。上次在特朗普執(zhí)政第一任期時(shí)他們就這么做了，關(guān)稅下調(diào)后，他們再也沒有恢復(fù)從美國購買。這種情況還會(huì)再次發(fā)生，而你們將在中國和其他地方失去市場份額。世界其他國家都重新開始正常生活了，在最初的沖擊過后我們繼續(xù)前行，而你們卻要承受他的行為帶來的后果。所以下次要是再投票選他，情況會(huì)“越來越好”的。不過這得看對誰而言了。
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Rob Boardman
The question is back to front.

這個(gè)問題本末倒置了。

Very few countries applied tariffs to U.S. goods.

極少有國家對美國商品征收關(guān)稅。

Trump hates income tax and loves tariffs (import sales taxes) to provide government moneys instead.

特朗普討厭所得稅，卻熱衷于用關(guān)稅（進(jìn)口銷售稅）來為政府提供資金。

He has been talking about tariffs since the 1980s.

自20世紀(jì)80年代以來，他就一直在談?wù)撽P(guān)稅問題。

He calls his tariffs "reciprocal" but they are not. They are new taxes on US consumers and Trump lies and says it's because other countries tries tariff the USA - as I said, very few countries did that.

他稱自己的關(guān)稅是“對等的”，但事實(shí)并非如此。這些關(guān)稅是加在美國消費(fèi)者身上的新稅種，而特朗普撒謊稱這是因?yàn)槠渌麌以噲D對美國征收關(guān)稅——正如我所說，很少有國家這么做。

His tariff scheme is in fact a reverse Robin Hood scheme. The import tariffs (sales tax) has US consumers filling the govt coffers (Trump boasts its 2 billion per day), so he can offer bigger income and business tax cuts to his rich buddies and himself.

他的關(guān)稅計(jì)劃實(shí)際上是一種逆向的劫貧濟(jì)富計(jì)劃。進(jìn)口關(guān)稅（銷售稅）讓美國消費(fèi)者充實(shí)了政府金庫（特朗普吹噓每天有20億美元），這樣他就可以為他的富豪朋友和他自己提供更大幅度的所得稅和企業(yè)稅減免。

Robbing the poor to give to the rich.

劫貧濟(jì)富。

Damon Kaswell
The “colorful language” will be in a picture, rather than text, for two reasons:

“豐富的語言”將以圖片而非文字的形式呈現(xiàn)，原因有兩個(gè)：

I want to drive home the fact that this is my reaction I’m describing, not an argument. It includes lots of swearing and insults because that exemplifies the rage I’m currently feeling, but I don’t intend it to seem like a strictly logic-driven position. I’m angrier than I’ve ever been in my life right now, and what you’ll see reflects that.

我想強(qiáng)調(diào)一點(diǎn)，我在這里描述的是我的反應(yīng)，而非一場爭論。其中包含很多咒罵和侮辱性言語，因?yàn)檫@體現(xiàn)了我當(dāng)下的憤怒，但我并非想讓它顯得是一個(gè)完全基于邏輯的立場。我現(xiàn)在比這輩子任何時(shí)候都要憤怒，而你將會(huì)看到的內(nèi)容就反映了這一點(diǎn)。

Since it’s replete with insults and swearing, I don’t want Quora’s algorithms and bots to mistakenly assume I’m directing them at you personally, OP. I’m not.

因?yàn)槠渲谐涑庵耆栊院椭淞R性言語，我不想讓Quora的算法和機(jī)器人錯(cuò)誤地認(rèn)為我這些話是針對提問者（OP）你個(gè)人的。我并不是這個(gè)意思。

Now then, some foundational points first:

那么，首先講一些基本要點(diǎn)：

You had approximately two years to figure out what tariffs actually are.

你有大約兩年的時(shí)間去弄清楚關(guān)稅到底是什么。

You've had your whole life to learn what a trade imbalance is, and why they're not actually inherently bad or in need of fixing.

你有一輩子的時(shí)間去了解貿(mào)易不平衡是什么，以及為什么貿(mào)易不平衡實(shí)際上并非本質(zhì)上就是壞事，也并非需要去糾正。

You've had several months now to figure out the nature of the modest, specific tariffs that have been in place for years, in both directions, between the United States and other countries.

你們已經(jīng)有好幾個(gè)月的時(shí)間來弄清楚多年來美國與其他國家之間雙向征收的適度且特定的關(guān)稅的性質(zhì)了。

You’ve had almost a decade to understand trade agreements like the USMCA, which Trump himself signed into law.

你有近十年的時(shí)間來了解像《美墨加協(xié)定》這樣的貿(mào)易協(xié)定，而該協(xié)定正是特朗普本人簽署使其成為法律的。

With that in mind, here is my honest portrayal of what I felt when I saw this question. Again, it's insulting, and intentionally so, because I want - need - for people who still somehow support Trump to understand what people who don't support him feel about you, and why.

考慮到這一點(diǎn)，以下是我看到這個(gè)問題時(shí)真實(shí)感受的如實(shí)描述。再說一次，這是一種侮辱，而且是故意為之，因?yàn)槲蚁Ｍ灿斜匾切┎恢獮楹稳匀恢С痔乩势盏娜嗣靼撞恢С炙娜藢δ愕目捶ㄒ约霸颉?/b>

That is the rage that’s in my heart right now. You’ve broken the country I grew up in, all in the name of sticking it to the libs. You’ve sold your country out, and wrapped yourself in the American flag while you did it.

這就是我此刻心中的憤怒。你們以對付自由派的名義，毀掉了我成長的這個(gè)國家。你們出賣了自己的國家，還在這么做的時(shí)候身披美國國旗。

Now you have a good idea of how angry we are, and how much it infuriates us to know we share a country with people willing to behave like you have.

現(xiàn)在你很清楚我們有多憤怒了，一想到和你這種行事作風(fēng)的人同屬一個(gè)國家，就讓我們怒火中燒。

So what now? How do we save this country? We can’t save it from you. The only way we get past this is if you find it in yourselves to recognize how badly you’ve messed up, and start making it right. And I genuinely don’t think you can. I don’t think you have the capacity to recognize your mistakes until they hurt hurt you so badly that it breaks down the walls you’ve built around your own critical thinking skills.

那現(xiàn)在怎么辦？我們要如何拯救這個(gè)國家？靠你們是拯救不了的。我們擺脫這種困境的唯一辦法是，你們要自己認(rèn)識(shí)到你們把事情搞得有多糟，然后開始改正。而我真的不認(rèn)為你們能做到。我覺得你們沒有能力認(rèn)識(shí)到自己的錯(cuò)誤，直到錯(cuò)誤給你們帶來巨大傷害，打破你們圍繞自己的批判性思維能力所筑起的壁壘。

You still don’t even know that these tariffs are not reciprocal. I don’t think you can know it. I don’t think you’re capable of allowing yourselves to know it, because doing so threatens your self-image as a MAGA-American.

你甚至還不知道這些關(guān)稅并非對等的。我覺得你不可能知道這一點(diǎn)。我認(rèn)為你根本不會(huì)讓自己去了解這一點(diǎn)，因?yàn)檫@么做會(huì)威脅到你作為支持“讓美國再次偉大”理念的美國人的自我認(rèn)知。
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In other words, I think you have doomed this country. I’m pessimistic about our ability to ever come back from this.

換句話說，我認(rèn)為你已經(jīng)把這個(gè)國家推向了絕境。我對我們能否從這種狀況中恢復(fù)過來感到悲觀。

We’ve obliterated the world’s trust in us. We’ve practically guaranteed the dollar becomes worthless internationally, as it stops being the world’s reserve currency. We’re going to be isolated, and we’re already rapidly becoming an economic pariah state.

我們已經(jīng)徹底摧毀了世界對我們的信任。實(shí)際上，我們已經(jīng)注定了美元在國際上變得一文不值，因?yàn)樗辉偈鞘澜鐑?chǔ)備貨幣。我們將會(huì)被孤立，而且我們已經(jīng)在迅速淪為經(jīng)濟(jì)上的棄兒。